Puslapis 18

Technologijos:Eksperimentai,Kryžminimas, Feminizuotos sėklos

Parašytas: 2008-04-26, 15:45
mr.green
Matou kad forumas pribrendo tokiai temai.Nedougelis-turi tiksliu ziniu apie tai tad manou galim pradet deskutot! :D

Parašytas: 2008-04-26, 15:52
Sokan
na na...Labai smagu, pagaliau:))

Tai nuo ko pradedam? Veisles stabilizavimas? Mr.green,gal galetum placiau apie tai papsakot;] as daugmaz isivaizduoju, kad kai gauni atitinkama dwieju weisliu hibrida ji reikia wel kryzminti su ta weisle, kurios pozymiu tikiesi labiausiai...

Parašytas: 2008-04-26, 16:31
Apvalus
Mane domintu femizizuotu seklu gamyba....kur galima rasti informacijos apie tai.O gal mr.green pats esi sio reikalo zinovas ?
Del kryzminimo: Tai va.Gal galima placiau apie tai ? Kodel verta kodel ne ir ar sunku ir pan...Manau ne man vienam tai idomu nuo pat 0.

Parašytas: 2008-04-26, 16:31
mr.green
Sokan rašė:na na...Labai smagu, pagaliau:))

Tai nuo ko pradedam? Veisles stabilizavimas? Mr.green,gal galetum placiau apie tai papsakot;] as daugmaz isivaizduoju, kad kai gauni atitinkama dwieju weisliu hibrida ji reikia wel kryzminti su ta weisle, kurios pozymiu tikiesi labiausiai...
Vesles stabilizavimas - tai yra tam tikru ipatingu bruozu itvirtinimas, kuris bus budingas tik tam augalui.Tai daroma backcrosu!Stabilumas nelabai apibrezta savoka zoles augintoju pasaulyje,stabilia veisle galima isgaut ir is pirmo kryzminimo gavus f1 hibrida, bet tam reikia naudot genetiskai svarias rusis indika ,sativa arba rudeliari.Sunkiau yra su hibridais nes fenatipu ivairove didele ir savoka stabilus taikyti netinka -Galima atsekt keleta genotipu.Pvz. Sensi seeds gamintojas HP seklas vienodas genotipas 80% kiti 20% nukrypsta visai i kita puse, bet su bendrom stiprios indikos harakteristikom tai ar galim vadint tai stabilumu :?:

Parašytas: 2008-04-26, 17:11
mr.green
Visi sedi isizioja ir laukia kol kazkas sukramtis ir duos! Sita tema skirta deskusijom o ne tik klausimu konkursuj! Tad labai sveikintina kad pasnekovai butu perskaite nors sita - http://www.2shared.com/file/2803448/2f2 ... Bible.html
Pres rasant kazkokius klausimus :!: :D Aciu!

Parašytas: 2008-04-26, 17:18
Mac
Įdomu. Manau visu pirma kryžminant dvi ar daugiau rūšių, reikia žinoti, kokio nori rezultato ir kam tai darai, kokių nori augalo bruožų, tada gan įdomu turėtų būti. O tarkim kada gali sakyti, kad hibridas stabilizuotas?

Parašytas: 2008-04-26, 17:36
mr.green
Apvalus rašė:Mane domintu femizizuotu seklu gamyba....kur galima rasti informacijos apie tai.O gal mr.green pats esi sio reikalo zinovas ?
Del kryzminimo: Tai va.Gal galima placiau apie tai ? Kodel verta kodel ne ir ar sunku ir pan...Manau ne man vienam tai idomu nuo pat 0.
Info tikrai pilna inete, trys papuleriausi budai isgaut fem. seklu tai- Hermio zedadulkes,geberilio rugstis arba paprastas asperinas.O cia nedidelis Somos metodas- http://www.420source.com/post/82

Parašytas: 2008-04-26, 17:42
mr.green
Mac rašė:Įdomu. Manau visu pirma kryžminant dvi ar daugiau rūšių, reikia žinoti, kokio nori rezultato ir kam tai darai, kokių nori augalo bruožų, tada gan įdomu turėtų būti. O tarkim kada gali sakyti, kad hibridas stabilizuotas?
Kai karta po kartos tu gauni tos pacius augalus su tais paceis fizineis brozais ir tik nedidelis procentas su nukrepimu tarkim 8-9 is 10 ! P.s. Mano asmenine nuomone.

Parašytas: 2008-04-26, 17:48
runkelis
anais metais bandziau nusipirkti giberilino rugsties (G3).Nesiuncia is USA!

Parašytas: 2008-04-26, 17:52
mr.green
runkelis rašė:anais metais bandziau nusipirkti giberilino rugsties (G3).Nesiuncia is USA!
Geriou nubek i vaistine ir nusipirk asperino-greiciou ir pigiou!

Parašytas: 2008-04-26, 19:19
runkelis
Tada gal butu galima smulkiau apie aspirina ir t.t. manau butu visiems idomu :!:nes man su tuo aspirinu tai jau labai gilu!gal trumpai ir drutai lietuviskai ir aiskiai ir be jokiu isvedziojimu!ar esi dares kokius eksperimentus pats pone mr.green :?:

Parašytas: 2008-04-26, 19:19
Mac
mr.green rašė:
runkelis rašė:anais metais bandziau nusipirkti giberilino rugsties (G3).Nesiuncia is USA!
Geriou nubek i vaistine ir nusipirk asperino-greiciou ir pigiou!
Su aspirinu tai tokį variantą radau, pats nebandžiau, bet būtinai pabandysiu.
I hear many arguments if people should buy feminized seeds or not. I recommend buying normal seeds so you have both male and female. Then when they flower, separate the males and females. DONT KILL THE MALES LIKE YOU USUALLY DO. Then feed the males with with ASPRIN. You know...Bayer or St. joseph. Feed them the aspirin just like you would feed them your nutrients. For example, i have a 3.5 gallon bubbler bucket, i feed them with new nutriets every three weeks. Same thing with the aspirin (after flowering) i feed them 1 crushed 80mg tablet every three weeks. After the aspirin treatment, the hormones in the males should change dramatically. When both male and female are ripe, you should begin the mating process. Heres a trick i picked up to easily mate (i forgot the site). Get a wet brown paper bag, and put it on the male branch. Tight the opening of the bag with a rubber band and shake the branch for 15 minutes. Quickly take it to a female branch, tighten the opening and wait for the bag to dry. after it drys, shake the branch for 30 minutes. The females should be fertilized and wait a few days for the seeds to ripen. Plant the seeds and they should come up female in the future. When i feed the asprin to the males, i play it safe and put in one tablet. You might have better luck putting more in (like 1 tablet per gallon). I only tried this once and i had good success. Can some one try this and tell me their success? I never tried giving both sexes asprin...

Parašytas: 2008-04-26, 20:42
mr.green
runkelis rašė:Tada gal butu galima smulkiau apie aspirina ir t.t. manau butu visiems idomu :!:nes man su tuo aspirinu tai jau labai gilu!gal trumpai ir drutai lietuviskai ir aiskiai ir be jokiu isvedziojimu!ar esi dares kokius eksperimentus pats pone mr.green :?:
Bandziou femenizot seklas su hermio zedadulkem apie 80% seklu gavosi fem.Bet as isanalizaves doug medziagos priejauo tokios isvados kad tai tik zaidimas femenizotos seklos domina tik komercija uzsiimanti zmogu , sudarant tinkamas saligas is reguler seklu galma isgaut doug moteryskiu .O kaip sakant geram augintojuj uztenka tik vieno sensemilijos augalo o visa kita isprenzia clonavimo gelius :D

Parašytas: 2008-04-27, 20:24
-AwZ-
visishkai bukas klausimas. bet ash ne botanikas, nenusimanau deja. bet gal jus zhinote, ash kazhka girdejau. kaip pvz keisti (suteikti) skoni.aromata kanapej? su kitokiu augalu galima kaipnors sukrizhmint? ar taip imanoma ?

Parašytas: 2008-04-27, 20:50
Apvalus
Ce skonis nuo dziovinimo priklauso.Aisku ir nuo rusies bet su dziovinimu gali isgaut labai gera skoni ( curing budu )

Parašytas: 2008-04-27, 20:58
Zoom
Gal galima placiau? :)

Parašytas: 2008-04-27, 21:18
kingston
Paprastas curing:

http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/mj009.htm

Taip pat yra curing su vandeniu.
Apie pastaraji buda,internete paieskokit .

Parašytas: 2008-04-27, 21:41
Apvalus
Hm....nuskynus visa derliu ji paruosi,nukerpi ir pakabini dziuti (Niekada nedziovinkite per greit,neatsukite ventiliatoriaus i derliu,ir dziovinkite tamsiame gerai ventiliuojamame kambaryje nes sviesa ardo THC! ).Del isdziuvimo galite patikrinti kaip luzta kotas.Jai jis luzta treksteldamas vadinas iszdiuves.Pabandykite keliose vietojse ji perlauzti kad isitikintumete ar tikrai iszdziuves.Curing procesas leidzia isdziovinti pakankamai lygei t.y. kai dziovini,vidurys bud'o vis dar turi dregmes todel isdziusta netolygei o pavirsius lieka perdziuves.Tai nera gerai todel curing yra geras budas to isvengti( padaryti visa bud'a tolygiai isdziuvusi bet neperdziuvusi).Sudekite derliu i plastikinius maisus ir uzsukite virsu.Palikite kokiom 8 valandom kol jie sudregs vel,tai pades isnesioti dregme is bud'o centrines dalies.Kartokite sy procesa kelis kartus bet trumpinkite buvima maise ( pvz. atristame maise 24h,uzristame 8h,atristame 16, uzristame 12 ir pan jaigu dar reikes.)Po keliu dienu derlius bus paruostas "sadeliavimui".Pataisykit jai suklydau. stai iskarpa apie curing is Cannabis grow bible 4th edition :
As soon as the branches are brittle you should consider
canning your bud. Canning is a great way to get the most from your
bud. Find a can with a removable lid. The more cans you have the
better. Using a pair of scissors, clip your bud from the branch and put
it into the can. The branches and stem are not much good to you. They
do contain THC, but only in small quantities. Most stem and branches
go in the bin.
Now take the can and place it a room or cupboard that is
dark. Everyday open the lid for a few hours (6 hours is good) and then
close the lid again. Also shake the bud around a bit every couple of
days. This is the most common curing technique out there and it does
do its job well. Bud that is cured well smokes the best! I would give the
canning process between 3 - 4 weeks before you should really sample
your goods. 8 weeks old bud can smoke extremely well and year old
bud is vintage stuff but can loose potency. Fresh bud (8 weeks canned
curing) is the pinnacle point of cured bud. After that some of the THC
cannabinoids change composition and become different cannabinoid
compounds. Fresh bud is far better than aged bud. You may find other
curing processes out there, but canning does work wonders and is
cheap to do.
If you have dried your plants for three weeks while hanging
upside down you can subtract that time from the canning time to know when you should be in for a bit of smoke. Although you can have good
bud to smoke two weeks after you harvest it is better to wait for four
weeks or more.

Parašytas: 2008-04-27, 21:47
Apvalus
Del feminizuotu seklu iskarpa kaip jos pasidaro : Hermies cause problems because they may carry the hermie
trait with their offspring. In fact, genetically the hermie will only
produce female seeds and hermaphrodite seeds. It will never produce a
male seed. If you have ever seen all female seeds been advertised by
seed-banks then you should have the right to know that these seeds
come from female plants which are stressed into producing male
flowers. The plants then self-pollinate themselves and the results are
female and hermaphrodite seeds. In a special case a female known as
an XX female will produce more female seeds than hermaphrodite
seeds. That is how female seeds are created.

Parašytas: 2008-04-28, 15:39
Dimka
matai ka mes skaitom lietuviska? :) tai laukine rusis kuri pilnai prisitaikius prie musu klimato, aisku ideja nebloga, jei paimti is jos istverminguma o visas kitas savybes palikt is norincios rusies :) ideja gera tiems kas turi vietos ir laiko :)